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[dao-forum] Re: [-empyre-] archiving + preservation

To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: DigitalArtOntology <dao-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Kenneth Fields <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 12:22:26 +0800
Message-id: <D08A66AA-9E4B-11D8-AF16-0003936D930C@ccom.edu.cn>
No problem with CAW (criticalartware) being focused on the knowledge 
base rather than the repository - the web is the repository.    (01)

There are a few threads going on here at the same time which is 
suitable for a CAW aesthetic. I also a find a lifetime resistance to 
artificial categorization schemes and non-complex ontologies. I have a 
project regarding a digital art ontology ( dao.cim3.net ), though not 
much progress because we are looking for ways to avoid artificial 
schemas -  like Standard Upper and Middle Ontologies and top-down or 
bottom-up design methods. CAW approaches an immersive standpoint from 
which to design ontologies (inside-out design, or maybe quasi-conscious 
design) - I have tried a MUTE (multi-user text environment) as an 
ontology design tool. You guys are using the wiki interface (liki) . 
Would you have plans to use more 'push' techniques - realtime - in the 
development of CAW. Push, meaning that you don't have to reload a page 
- rather, incorporating a terminal interface (or shared document 
format) somewhere in the 'critical OS.' It's not that I'm lazy (click 
button) - it enhances the 'presence' [immersive/involved] factor of the 
community.    (02)

I downloaded your xml page of nodes, stripped it down, and imported it 
into the Protege software. I thank you for this resource and I hope to 
utilize that. As you said, the xml file can by used to create immersive 
or 3d interfaces and operating systems. I hope to work on the Mute 
first. Also, thanks for your visualizations of the node space - instead 
of id numbers for your node map, might you put in the node names (or 
both, use short names if needed) .    (03)

Thanks CAW,    (04)

Dr. Kenneth Fields
Professor Media Arts/Computer Music
Conference Co-director: Consciousness Reframed: Qi and Complexity 2004, 
Beijing    (05)

CEMC - China Center for Electronic Music
Central Conservatory of Music
43 BaoJia Street
XiCheng District
Beijing, China, 100031    (06)




On May 5, 2004, at 1:44 AM, jonCates wrote:    (07)

> blithe riley (criticalartware coreDeveloper) has [strong/important] 
> [positions/ideas] [on/about] archiving + preservation in relation to 
> criticalartware. hopefully, when she has availability, blithe will be 
> able to comment directly on criticalartware's approach to preservation 
> + archiving.
>
> generally speaking, criticalartware agreed early on to avoid a 
> repository function. others exist such as
>
> Runme.org
> http://runme.org/
>
> ++
>    (08)





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