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From: Kenneth Fields <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:39:38 +0800
Message-id: <53F51EE4-82F7-11D8-B8EB-0003936D930C@ccom.edu.cn>
Hi ZhuBin,
To continue our discussion on making an ontology immersive (first text, 
(then SVG?), then vrml or vroml (virtual reality ontology markup 
language). A wiki page was created at: 
http://dao.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ImmersiveOntology    (01)

You can read some of the previous messages in the forum. In general, 
its not a simple matter to state our status and goals. We are 
interested in building a digital art ontology - that goal is almost 
mundane (a matter of structuring concepts in protege) - so we seem to 
be focusing on the 'means' to the end. We are discussing automation, 
ways to 'capture' or 'harvest' expert domain knowledge.    (02)

Collaborative spaces - listservs, blogs, wikis - are where expert 
knowledge (vocabulary) is harboring.    (03)

The original dynamic collaborative space was the MOO (structured 
database). It is a simple text in a terminal interface - though the 
real time, user driven effect is still relevant in todays browser 
world. No image data makes it fast. @build Room1. Why is Short 
Messaging service so popular... though people are fascinated by 
high-res rendered interfaces, they are still operating in constrained 
low data environments.    (04)

Text is a very compressed communication interface - look at present 
audio or video synthesis tools for example. Pure Data and Max are 
graphic interfaces, while Supercollider is an object oriented 
programming environment. To make a sound in SC, I only need type: 
{Noise.ar(100hz)}.play.    (05)

To build an ontology in protege is the same - I'm working with icons 
and visual programming tools. this is good. In multiuser ontology 
groups I might work with a client application, and the server updates 
my display by sending short commands. If we work with the text in a 
terminal interface we could even use mobile communication devices to 
update and monitor the state of our knowledge. I like to work at coffee 
houses a lot! The office of the future.    (06)

These are just some thoughts to get you going.    (07)

dao.cim3 is our collaborative ontology space. The present tool they are 
using for ontology browsing is called the Sigma browser. You can look 
at that. It is a standard type of interface. It gets the job done. But 
we are a digital media group, and we should develop something a little 
less functional :). Just kidding. I hope our effort leads to a highly 
intuitive knowledge schema authoring and browsing environment.    (08)

The general goal is to be immersed in a knowledge model. What are the 
ways to navigate a knowledge space - physically (3D)... traverse an 
x,y,z vector space (without wormholes) or symbolically (text - 
non-linear)... go there now. They could work together. Then text 
becomes the means to wormhole your way through the visual knowledge 
space.    (09)

Anyway, you can see we're having fun.    (010)

Ken.    (011)


On Mar 31, 2004, at 3:36 PM, Zhu, Bin wrote:    (012)

> Hi all,
> I am Zhu, Bin from Ubiquitous Computing Lab from Peking University. Our
> direction is Semantic Web and Ontology research.
> I hope I can do something what I can.
>
> Cheers
> Zhu, Bin
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